The Home Office is a bunch of fucking cunts
Sorry, this is probably my first ever serious post and probably my only one. I would know nothing about this were it not for knowing someone involved and I think it’s fucking disgusting. Please just take the time to read it and be informed… and if you happen to see Liam Byrne, please wank in his eye.
Thanks.
Last November the UK government changed the rules for the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme. The shitty thing they have done is to apply these rules retrospectively, suddenly putting many people who had made their homes here at risk of deportation.
This is akin to the government, after the written part of the driving test was introduced, saying that everyone who got their licence beforehand were now no longer licenced and would face prosecution for driving without one. Makes perfect sense, right?
One such a person is my close personal friend and favourite Uncle, Bill Tonghoek. He pretty much scored maximum points in the test, except for the fact that he doesn’t have a university degree, leaving him 5 short of the requisite 75. If you were to spend more than 5 minutes with the man you’d realise that there’s a very good reason for this. He’s clearly the most educated person on the planet and able run intellectual circles around most cardigan-wearing professors…. no university would have him. To say our country will be a poorer place without this high-earning, tax-paying, big-spending individual is a massive understatement, and not for the reasons stated above.
I’ll leave the rest to him, because it just gets worse.
"I’m getting kicked out.
I was waiting for Home Office to send me a form, which would have been a Refusal with Right of Appeal. Which means I was legally in this country while they took their 6 months working on it. It would have been a refusal since they changed the rules after I qualified and applied the rules retrospectively to people who are here already - you need a degree to qualify now. However, the right of appeal would have meant that I could take my case to a judge, while being legal in this country without prejudice to myself. Or even leave the country, without prejudice to myself.
Now, Home Office was whipped in the Tribunal Courts on the first people like myself - judges have all pretty much condemned what they’re doing to us. So now Home Office is trying to save face by not letting us get to a judge in the first place. So now they are denying us the right to appeal on all sorts of spurious grounds.
So out of the blue four weeks ago, this letter arrives telling me I am refused with no right of appeal and I must report to the detention centre immediately. No warning, no "ok we don’t want you here just leave in 2 months and everything will be fine". As of the date on that letter I am liable for detention. I had to report to the centre where they fingerprint you, metal-detect you, line you up like convicts. As is I am "lucky" not to be in "detention centre" - they don’t call it prison to make themselves look better. I have to report there every Saturday, like I am on parole. I understand suicide rates are quite high in these places. No one really knows what goes on inside there, but like Guantanemo Bay, they operate outside of the normal sphere of correctional facilities. The very few reports available on these detention centres suggest that they have a very poor human rights records, over-crowding and the normal abuse.
Even if I want to leave right now I can’t. They are holding my passport. They are processing me. They are throwing every legal trick at me to make me out to be a criminal detrimental to British society. So now I can only wait until they are finished with me and drive me to the airport - in the meantime I am technically not allowed to work or be here. They don’t let you work, they don’t give you money either, they don’t let you leave immediately either. So the longer they take, the more they make me look like an illegal overstaying immigrant. Which is exactly what they want. Everything they are doing to me now will affect any future I have of entering any country, anywhere.
So, if they had wanted to be decent, they could have said "right we want you to leave the country, if you do so in two months we won’t hold anything against you". Instead, they out of the blue turned me into a criminal.
I have a very very slim hope on EU Human Rights legislation - on the argument that the state is interfering disproportionately with my private and family life. This is the same EU Rights legislation that David Cameron and even a few "liberals" wanted to take away in favour for a new "British" Human Rights, which I can only assume would mean only the British have any rights in this country. (I would assume this would mean they can shoot Brazilians with even more impunity.)
Even so, this hope is slim to non-existent, as they are doing everything they can do prevent me from seeing a judge. There won’t be any public outcry over this, since the voting british public view immigrants like myself as sub-human."
The change in law condemned by Human Rights committee
Summary on timeline
Mayor of London, Red Ken bitching about it
PS. If you happen to be a cardigan-wearing type with the power to magically bestow lovely people with university degrees, then mail me!
September 15th, 2007 at 9:29 am
shit… that’s horrible. good luck to him.
September 15th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Unfotunately the millions of illegal migrants arriving in the UK and not only living here at the taxpayer’s expense but receiving all kinds of benefits on Earth and the government losing control of them will lead to bizarre and non-sensical legislation being passed. The government require these illegal zombies to run their workforce which their own citizens can’t. And more unfortunately it is the intelligent and qualified people that are no longer required. Their skills, talents and potential is put to no use because the outlets through which these were channelled in the past have been closed or privatised by Labour so they now run on miniscule funding that boils down to membership fees of a few aged individuals who know that the world they inhabit is doomed.
The attitude that people face these core realities of our society is to deny that points of the sort made in the above paragraph do not make any sense to them whatsoever.
September 19th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
“the millions of illegal migrants arriving in the UK and not only living here at the taxpayer’s expense but receiving all kinds of benefits on Earth and the government losing control of them”
Are you on drugs?
September 19th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Garry that’s exactly the kind of response I foresaw in the final paragraph of my reply. Stop trying to hide your face.
September 19th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
Hide my face? You’re off your face.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:21 am
That’s just a shite thing Corin! Please let us kniow if we can do more than just wank on Liam…
Or Rehan’s face
September 20th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
Rehan, from your name I’m assuming that you must be a 2nd, 3rd, maybe 4th generation immigrant? How would your family have been affected if after 10 years in this country, they were told that they had to leave?
Also, my friend is a highly skilled programmer, our country is in dire need of skilled IT professionals. That has categorically nothing to do with privatisation.
September 21st, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Rehan.
I have read and re-read your post. It is poorly constructed but you appear to be saying that people who entered the UK with a valid number of points to work here are no longer required in the job market.
The rest of it I cannot understand.
September 21st, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Rehan’s fucked up on drugs and should be left alone.
September 22nd, 2007 at 12:15 am
I’m sorry if I didn’t explain myself very well. I said that we do need IT professionals but the government does not think so if it is kicking your friend out. I have nothing against migrants. What I am against is illegal immigrants who come here, live on the benefits system and rob people to make money. In places like where I live this is becoming a norm and the police refuse to do anything despite admitting they know the culprits because knife-point muggings are too normal a happening. This is what really infuriates me.
Otherwise I welcome skilled workers, sane and talented people like yourself and your friend. Sadly the illegal variety now runs into millions and government has clearly lost control which is why we’re seeing bizarre measures taken against the genuine migrants who should be here.
My grandfather came here from India and served in the Royal Navy in WWII. He was conscripted here because in 1842 India was under British rule.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Rohan, please tell us what you’re on.
You go to the police and say “I’ve been mugged at knife-point,” and they say: “Hello, hello, hello, we know who that was - he’s one of those illegal immigrants; but we’re not going to do anything because it’s too normal a happening.” Yeah, that sounds plausible.
And how do you claim benefits if you’re illegal?
September 25th, 2007 at 11:12 am
Rehan - you are very wrong on so many levels.
Aside from the ill-informed rubbish you’re writing, an illegal immigrant can’t claim benefits because they don’t appear on the system that would give them benefits.
Your attitude is sadly typical of many people who have been told that there are people “coming to this country and taking our jobs or scrounging on benefits”. it’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about - and you really should stop now.
You really *are* wrong you know…
September 25th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Ben, this is turning into a hideous debate so I’m not going down that road and I won’t be posting to this thread again. Suffice it to say that I am not wrong because I speak from experience and not authority. I have lived in a place which smuggles immigrants into the UK who register under fake IDs, (their papers are made in their native countries with which they arrive), 5 of whom were my own cousins. Various other relatives and friends of mine have done the same thing. The UK is obliged under legislation that cannot send them back under the Human Rights tribunal and they’re supported by something called the Refugee Council. They claim benefits and live off that unless they work illegally which they all do. God alone knows how many more such dens of iniquity exist and doubtless they do in their thousands in fact I’m quite sure of it.
Whatever else remains to be corroborated we could debate on this endlessly but your government has clearly lost control of its borders and doesn’t know what comes in to this country. You may curse me and call me a fool but you can’t change facts!
September 26th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
I neither cursed you, nor called you a fool. I merely said you were wrong.
Your response has done nothing to dissuade me that I was initially correct.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
The great British public don’t know about much of these happenings. I certainly knew nothing about this legislation being enacted retrospectively. A load of complete tosh is talked about immigrants ‘coming here and taking all our money’ Most immigrants to our country are working damned hard here and are being taken advantage of by some unscrupulous employers. Little is ever said about THAT when folk find a horse high enough to sit on. More people leave Britain every year than come to live here (check the Home Office facts) and it is disgraceful that British people feel that they can move away to their gite in France or holiday home in Spain and live, but deny the very same right to others wanting to live here. What makes the UK such a special case? Bugger all. I think we should have no immigration legislation. Let whoever wants to come here, come and be welcome. After all, its the least we can do after raping a third of the world watching the sun set on the British Empire.
December 19th, 2008 at 5:11 am
I really enjoyed your post. I will have to come back again to read some more of them.